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(Fwd) Re: [oxen] Has RMS gone off the deep end?

From: kebera_-at-_Cyblings.ON.CA
Date: 3 Feb 1999 20:41:43 -0500

Forwarded by request  -keb
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Alan DeKok wrote: 

> Instead, he wants everyone to accede to his beliefs and political 
> persuasions, and he wants no one to benefit from his work unless you convert 
> to his religion.  

Here's what RMS said in response to someone who promoted BSD licenses.  It  
seems quite practical rather than based on faith.  The list is archived at  
http://www.public-domain.org/ . (Unfortunately they're redoing the site right  
now and some older stuff seems to be gone.  I have the rest of the discussion  
as emails if anyone wants it.) 

-Krishna 

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Date sent:      	Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:45:52 -0500 
Send reply to:  	rms@gnu.org 
From:           	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> 
To:    Multiple recipients of list UPD-DISCUSS <upd-discuss@essential.org> 
Subject:        	Re: On the GPL 

You have written very eloquently to express the view that I described 
as "pacifist".  Your ideal of conduct is to be compliant; never to say 
no to any way of using your code.  The choice of a non-copyleft 
license that says yes to everything is a rational way of achieving 
that goal. 

However, it is a mistake to assume such code is "more free", because 
the typical user of such a program may have less freedom than the 
typical user of (say) GNU Emacs.  Every user of Emacs has all the 
freedom guaranteed by the GNU GPL; but when a program has no copyleft, 
many, even most, of its users might have much less freedom than that. 

This actually happened with X Windows.  Many of the users of X Windows 
have received proprietary versions with their operating systems. 
Although X Windows was free software as it came from MIT (later the X 
Consortium), without a copyleft there was nothing to ensure that this 
freedom reached the end user.  I said "many of the users", but in the 
heyday of X Windows, nearly all of the users were without freedom. 

You appeal repeatedly to the principle that sharing should be 
voluntary; that no one should be forced to share a program.  I agree 
with this principle, and that is why the GNU GPL never requires you to 
distribute a copy.  To redistribute a GPL-covered program is never 
compulsory; if you do it, you do it voluntarily. 

The issue where we differ is the flip side: should not-sharing be 
voluntary too?  Is it acceptable for someone to be compelled *not* to 
share a program?  I believe that too is wrong; that every user should 
always have the freedom to redistribute a program, as well as the 
freedom not to redistribute it.  Proprietary software is wrong because 
it denies users this choice. 

Copyleft is the way of guaranteeing that every user has both sides of 
this freedom--the freedom to redistribute, and the freedom not to. 
Non-copyleft licenses only protect the freedom not to redistribute, 
and make it all too easy for many people to end up without the other. 

I don't believe that the highest virtue is to be easy-going, and never 
say no to anyone.  There are some things that it is a virtue to say no 
to.  Copyleft says, "These freedoms are for everyone; if you want to 
take them away from someone else, the answer is no."  Aside from that, 
it says yes. 


--
Krishna E. Bera,    "Programmer on the loose"
PGP key at http://www.achilles.net/%7ekebera/


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