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Re: The Coalition for Solidarity in Gandhian Nonviolence.

From: Russell McOrmond <russell_-at-_flora.ca>
To: flora-admin-design_-at-_flora.org
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:03:47 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Sandra P. Hoffman wrote:

> There is a listing of circumstances under which the organization 
> accepts violence or vandalism at:
> http://www.greenfyre.org/SIGN/mandate.html

Thanks for the reminder.

> I have problems with the Acts of Self-defence exemption. I believe I 
> have heard almost the exact same wording to justify wars.
> I also have problems with points 3-6 under the vandalism exceptions.

  We agree on this.  It isn't enough for me to not sign up for SIGN, but 
it isn't a definition I am entirely comfortable with.   I just don't have 
a better option as these things are unfortunately not easy to put into 
objective 'rules'.


> How far will you go with this though? For organizations currently on 
> FLORA that are neutral on the topic, will you require them to support 
> this move? Or is it enough that they do not advocate violent change?

  Where it is obvious they are neutral (meaning, have no connection with
the issue at all), then there won't be any questions asked. With the home
based learning support groups this is obvious.

  For groups that advocate change that 'might' get into this area, that is 
different.  It is unfortunate, but the alternative transportation groups 
have had some part of this.  There has been debates within CfSC as to 
whether or not "critical mass rides" are far too aggressive.  While I do 
not believe that a CM is violent, there are some who disagree.

  Where there will be a potential issue is groups like NOWAR which avoided 
questions around "Take The Capital" last year, the MAI-NOT forum, and 
related groups.  These aren't groups that volunteers like yourself have 
been involved in at all.

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