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Floral Arrangement - Future discussion group technologies (fwd)

From: russell_-at-_flora.ottawa.on.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 12 Apr 2000 14:18:34 -0400

  I am starting documentation on the next generation discussion groups.
The current document is at:

http://www.flora.org/flora/server/floral-arrangement-2.phtml

  Please read and comment.  I will be looking to find out what tools
currently exist, so if anyone can help with this it would be greatly
appreciated.


Floral Arrangement - Version 2

  Discussion group technologies used by FLORA
  
   Technologies that allow people to talk to each other are the basic and
   most important aspect of FLORA Community WEB. This document is a
   description of a a project to enhance the discussion group services.
   
   The version 1 documentation is online and describes some of the
   current technology in use and some ideas of what I was thinking in
   1997. Much has standardized around these technologies since that time
   and thus the direction has changed.
   
   One thing that has been a problem is that the differing technologies
   have not integrated well. Mailing lists and newsgroups work great at
   distribution to other sites, but common tools for participating on
   FLORA itself are needed. To this end a movement towards a database of
   articles will be used.
   
   Centralize discussion groups
   
          + messages stored in MySQL database
          + messages indexed from and 'archived' (IE: when not indexed)
            in XML format (Allows for faster searching of 'current'
            documents, while still being able to pull up old articles).
          + Message importers for RFC-822 messages (IE: Automated imports
            from existing mailing lists and existing newsgroups -
            converts to XML and then indexes into database)
          + Message exporters to RFC-822 messages (Possibly both
            text/plain and text/html format). People should be able to
            subscribe to these discussion groups in a variety of formats
            such as 1-article/1-message, full-digest (IE: You receive the
            body of the messages), link-digest [only has
            subject/auth/summary and a link], etc.
            
   Channel and group support
   Existing mailing lists and newsgroups can easily be imported into a
          new format. There is, however, a need for another higher level
          where short descriptions, better titles (No "Re: some other
          topic"), and a reference to the full text is needed. There is
          also a need to be able to publish links to other sites,
          upgrading the flora.announce (and other related announce
          groups) to something similar to what is offered on linuxtoday
          
          + Support for "channels" in the Rich Site Summary format.
            Should have the ability to both import (From other locations)
            existing channels as well as export. WebReference.com has
            quite a bit of documentation on RSS. RSS is essentially an
            XML Document Type definition, and RSS is defined by netscape
            as RSS 0.91.
          + General tool for displaying channels. One example using PHP
            was written Mark Schonbach for Slashdot. (Slashdot uses its
            own backslash DTD)
            
               o 2000-04-12 16:33:38 - from the trusted dept:
                 SGI B1 Linux Patches
               o 2000-04-12 16:07:17 - from the MAKE-MONEY-FAST dept:
                 Spammers Hit Wireless Phones
               o 2000-04-12 15:00:39 - from the learning-from-the-leaders
                 dept:
                 Jordan Pollack Answers AI And IP Questions
               o 2000-04-12 14:15:45 - from the
                 ever-wonder-what-happened-to dept:
                 Spencer Kimball's OnlinePhotoLab
               o 2000-04-12 14:15:00 - from the both-wishy-and-washy
                 dept:
                 DOJ Wary Of Breaking Up Microsoft
               o 2000-04-12 13:50:46 - from the trying-to-make-it-work
                 dept:
                 Linux Drivers For Hollywood Plus DVD Card
               o 2000-04-12 12:17:04 - from the giving-it-away dept:
                 Intel Opens CDSA Source
               o 2000-04-12 10:04:58 - from the i-don't-like-to-wait
                 dept:
                 Instant Access Memory
               o 2000-04-12 02:38:18 - from the
                 now-if-only-I-didn't-need-to-stand-to-pea dept:
                 Feeding Through Nutrient Patches
               o 2000-04-11 23:45:19 - from the cool-animation-stuff
                 dept:
                 Aardman Animations Releasing New Animations Online
                 
            We may also want to use the format used by LinuxToday which
            is to just output HTML which can be included within other
            documents
            
     SRO: TurboLinux Clustering - Many boxes, one power. Help is here.
     Wired: Sun Never Sets on Linux
     CBSMarketWatch: Goldman cuts Microsoft sales outlook
     VNU Net: Linux is fastest growing server OS
     IT-Director: Linux to get the drop on Microsoft?
     LinuxPR: LPI Expands Incentive Program for Second Certification
     Exam
     LinuxPR: Linux NetworX Names Stephen Hill Vice President Of
     Business Development
     WideOpenNews: IDC: Linux Servers Red Hot
     CNET News.com: Corel pushes Linux for graphics tasks
     LinuxNewbie.org: Wheres the RAM?
          + Moderator tools (IE: be able to moderate groups, change group
            status of existing messages, etc. One should be able to
            easily read an existing mailing list via a tool and then be
            able to mark a message as "To be hilighted via Channel" with
            them only needing to add in summary and possibly fix up a
            better subject.
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