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Re: http://russell.flora.org/work/commercial-software.html (fwd)

From: russell_-at-_flora.ottawa.on.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 24 Jan 2000 10:26:13 -0500

  A reply!  We'll see whether this change to the definition of
"proprietary" will help make the previous confusion go away.

The change should show up here:

http://www.hack.gr/jargon/html/P/proprietary.html

Which previously said:

  1. In marketroid-speak, superior; implies a product imbued with 
  exclusive magic by the unmatched brilliance of the company's own
  hardware or software designers. 2. In the language of hackers and
  users, inferior; implies a product not conforming to open-systems
  standards, and thus one that puts the customer at the mercy of a vendor
  able to gouge freely on service and upgrade charges after the initial
  sale has locked the customer in. 


  For those that did not see my submission, it is here:
http://russell.flora.org/work/commercial-software.html

  I asked for permission to forward his message, and got this reply:
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Russell McOrmond <russell@flora.ottawa.on.ca>:
>   Do you mind if I forward your reply to a local discussion group?

Go ahead.  Here's the new text:

   Since the coining of the term @es{open source}, many hackers
   have made a conscious effort to distinguish between
   @ta{proprietary} and @ta{commercial} software.  It is possible
   for software to be commercial (that is, intended to make a profit
   for the producers) without being proprietary.  The reverse is
   also possible, for example in binary-only freeware.
@comment from Russell McOrmond <russell@linux.ca>, 21 Dec 1999

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:32:07 -0500
From: Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Russell McOrmond <russell@linux.ca>
Cc: jargon@thyrsus.com, russell@flora.org
Subject: Re: http://russell.flora.org/work/commercial-software.html

Russell McOrmond <russell@linux.ca>:
> I would like to submit the following for 'Commercial software'.

I think I'm going to deal with this by making an addendum to the existing
definition of `proprietary'.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Strict gun laws are about as effective as strict drug laws...It pains
me to say this, but the NRA seems to be right: The cities and states
that have the toughest gun laws have the most murder and mayhem.
        -- Mike Royko, Chicago Tribune



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